slade
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Graem BauerI just realized that he was the man behind Logan in day 5. The guy who was wearing the ear piece. I'm a bit slow aren't i. 
I remember him saying in Day 6 that he should've killed him instead of handing him to the Chinese but i never realized he was in it 
Anyway, he played his character well. It was good to see a bit of Bauer's family. He died at the right time though.
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PreviouslyOn24
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I agree with the death part: he could have been dragged out, but he was in it for just the right amount of time.
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Josephine Marcus
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I thought he was a pretty good character. And the thing about him being in season 5 and we don't know who he really is yet is a pure 24 plot twist reveal. I also liked that actor on ER.
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artur2060
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I think that him turning out to be Jack's brother is the most unexpected thing that ever happened on the show
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slade
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If only i had picked up on that.
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artur2060
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There was no way anyone could expect that.
Jack's family was the last thing anyone would see coming
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slade
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I mean if only i realized that Graem was the guy behind Logan in season 5.
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Josephine Marcus
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Yeah! Jack was fighting with himself over protecting his family, or his country. It was pretty intense.
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whycantkimdie?
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great quote: "You're gonna get off easy." Jack to Phil in last episode
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Josephine Marcus
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Cause he gets to die rather than go through all the trails and prison and stuff.
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whycantkimdie?
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yep. And Jack persuades Josh not to shoot him. I bet Josh returns in season 7.
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Josephine Marcus
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I hope not. He was actually more annoying to me than Kim. Wouldn't it be funny if they got together and compared crazy stories? Who would win?
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whycantkimdie?
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Kim. She's been a hostage much more. I don't mind Josh. Don't like or hate him. Like him much more than Kim though.
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slade
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I really really really really hope Josh never ever ever ever returns.
In the words of comic book guy Worst.Character.Ever.
And you guys are sure good at going off topic
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Josephine Marcus
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Graem/Josh, same difference 
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artur2060
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He can come back only the question is how. They should do something with him.
He was so boring
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slade
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They can say he died on the way back to his home planet
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whycantkimdie?
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Lol yeah we'd all like that!
Anyways, back to topic, I like Graeme!
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slade
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Back to topic, he's dead now.
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artur2060
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How come he was bold and Jack isn't?
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whycantkimdie?
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Jack may have genes from his Dads side of the family and Graeme has Genes from his mothers. Or vice versa.
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Josephine Marcus
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Yeah, Graem seemed more the lock-yourself-in-the-basement type. And he definitley doesn't have the fitness to be doing what Jack does. But then again, I don't know if Jack could come up with a plan as extravagant as what Graem had going.
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artur2060
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Or maybe, they are just actors and it doesn't matter...
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whycantkimdie?
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Yeah they should have cast the guy who plays Mike Doyle as Graeme.
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Josephine Marcus
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That would have been pretty good, but Paul McCrane is so awesome too. He was great on ER.
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whycantkimdie?
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Why is everyone from 24 o ER?
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Josephine Marcus
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Because both shows demand great actors.
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whycantkimdie?
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good point.
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artur2060
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I think it would have been great if Donald Sutehrland played Jack's father.
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Josephine Marcus
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Yes, that would have been truly awesome.
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artur2060
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He is know for playing vilain roles
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Josephine Marcus
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Yeah, but in the commentary they say he's the nicest guy ever. I love when people are like that.
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artur2060
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It only means he's a great actor...
Kiefer too. Kiefer also played a few vilains
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Josephine Marcus
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Kiefer playing villains? Yeah! You ever seen "An Eye for an Eye?"
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slade
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Donald would've been awesome as the father. It would've made more since as well since they are actually family.
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Josephine Marcus
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Yeah, and hes such an amazing actor, exactly where Kiefer got if from.
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whycantkimdie?
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They tried to get Donald to play Phillip but the deal never came through.
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Josephine Marcus
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Really? Why would he turn down a role like that? I bet Kiefer was mad!
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whycantkimdie?
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He didn't turn it down. They just never came to an agreement in time.
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Josephine Marcus
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That still sucks
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whycantkimdie?
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Yeah that other guy was still good though.
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Josephine Marcus
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He was too tall. No one is that tall.
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artur2060
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I don't like him... He always plays boring parts
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slade
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I didn't like the guy who played the father much either.
He just didn't fit the part. His voice, his look. Just didn't seem right.
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artur2060
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Yeah, I know what you mean.
He's too boring to be realted to Jack
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whycantkimdie?
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Jack's supposed to be completly different from him though. That's why he ran away and joined the Army.
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Josephine Marcus
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But physical differences and personality differences are two different things. That's why DONALD SUTHERLAND should have played Phillip.
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whycantkimdie?
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True, Kiefers not that tall.
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Josephine Marcus
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Kiefer is short! Lol. I should find out exactly how tall.
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slade
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5' 9½" (1.77 M)
That's how tall he is.
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Josephine Marcus
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Okay, I guess that's not that short.
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slade
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Is to me.
I'm 6'4
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Josephine Marcus
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Well, I'm only 5'3
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artur2060
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It's cool when fathers and sons play together like how many time Charlie and Martin Sheen played father and son.
And Kirk and Michael Douglas
Donald Sutherland would have fitted definitely to be Jack's father
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Sandervs
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I like when father and son playing together, because they know each other real good.
By the way, I'm 1.83 metres.
I'm from The Netherlands we don't calculate with inches and that kind of stuff
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